{"id":232122,"date":"2025-05-22T11:40:47","date_gmt":"2025-05-22T10:40:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/?p=232122"},"modified":"2025-05-22T11:42:02","modified_gmt":"2025-05-22T10:42:02","slug":"im-going-to-become-a-mogul-im-working-towards-becoming-an-executive-producer-as-big-as-david-geffen1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/im-going-to-become-a-mogul-im-working-towards-becoming-an-executive-producer-as-big-as-david-geffen1\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8216;I\u2019m going to become a mogul. I\u2019m working towards becoming an executive producer as big as David Geffen.&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>MBW\u2019s World\u2019s Greatest Producers series sees us interview \u2013 and celebrate \u2013 some of the outstanding talents working in studios across the decades. Here we talk to Turbo, a producer on a hot streak who, as well as long-term creative partner Gunna, has worked with artists including Travis Scott, Moneybagg Yo, Young Thug, Lil Baby, Big Sean &#8211; and even Morgan Wallen. World\u2019s Greatest Producers is supported by <a href=\"https:\/\/kollectivenr.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Kollective Neighbouring Rights<\/a>, the neighbouring rights agent that empowers and equips clients with knowledge to fully maximise their earnings.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<figure class=\"mbw-articlepic mbw-articlepic--right\"><a class=\"link-internal\" href=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/12\/knr_worlds-greatest-producers-flashing-square.gif\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/12\/knr_worlds-greatest-producers-flashing-square.gif\" data-lightbox=\"image-set\" data-title=\"\"><img  class=\"lazyload\" src=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/12\/knr_worlds-greatest-producers-flashing-square.gif\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/12\/knr_worlds-greatest-producers-flashing-square.gif\" ><i class=\"fas fa-search-plus magnifying-glass-icon\"><\/i><\/a><\/figure><p>Everyone has one of those long, hot summers; full of seemingly endless, carefree days that end up living long in the memory and, just maybe, changing your life.<\/p>\n<p>Chandler Durham\u2019s \u2018summer of \u201869\u2019 moment came along when he was 14. But he didn\u2019t spend his time at the park, the beach, or travelling to exotic destinations. Instead, he was locked away in his bedroom, avoiding the sweltering Atlanta heat and laying the foundations of a production technique that has seen him become one of the most influential hip-hop producers of the 21st century.<\/p>\n<p>But whatever Durham \u2013 now much better known as Turbo \u2013 missed out on in Vitamin D back in 2008, he\u2019s now making up for by overdosing on Vitamin H in 2025. H standing for Hits, of course; in recent times he has worked with everyone from his long-time collaborator Gunna to Travis Scott, Moneybagg Yo, Young Thug, Lil Baby, Big Sean and SleazyWorld Go. No wonder his stage name is Turbo The Great\u2026<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s not hard to live up to,\u201d he chuckles as he talks to <em>MBW<\/em> from the studio in Atlanta. \u201cI\u2019ve spent so much time doing this from an early age, at this point that\u2019s my last name\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p>After that summer, in which his cousin first taught him how to use FL Studio and Turbo would scour YouTube looking for production tips, he did everything he could to emulate the likes of Timbaland, Pharrell and Swizz Beatz. He conscientiously racked up his 10,000 hours; paid his own way through Atlanta Institute of Music &amp; Media; and taught himself to engineer in order to gain access to sessions in Atlanta\u2019s vibrant rap scene, working with the likes of T.I. and 21 Savage &amp; Metro Boomin. Along the way, he met Gunna and a formidable hip-hop alliance was formed.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe really started to lock in and from that point, I was just engulfed in it, all the way, completely,\u201d Turbo says. \u201cEvery day was either engineering or producing or doing something. It just snowballed into what it is today.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>His relationship with Gunna hit paydirt on 2018\u2019s <em>Drip Season 3<\/em> mixtape, crossed over via Lil Baby\u2019s collaboration with Gunna on the diamond-certified single, <em>Drip Too Hard<\/em>, and stayed strong through Gunna\u2019s stint in jail in 2022 after the rapper pleaded guilty to a charge of racketeering (\u201cI\u2019ve had a lot of ups and downs, so it was important for me to make sure, publicly and not publicly, that I stood next to my brother,\u201d says Turbo. \u201cThat\u2019s something I\u2019d want somebody to do for me\u201d).<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #FF7D00;\"><a style=\"color: #FF7D00;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/hip-hop-producer-turbo-the-great-sued-over-run-that-back-turbo-producer-tag\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Turbo has had legal difficulties of his own<\/a><\/span>, but recently won the $10 million copyright infringement claim over his iconic &#8216;Run that back, Turbo&#8217; producer tag, filed by musician Jamal Britt, whose voice is heard in the clip. The judge ruled Britt had no valid claim to the tag and reinforced Turbo\u2019s exclusive rights, ownership and control of the tag in future works.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"mbw-articlepic mbw-articlepic--right\"><a class=\"link-internal\" href=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2025\/05\/classy-girl.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2025\/05\/classy-girl.jpg\" data-lightbox=\"image-set\" data-title=\"\"><img  class=\"lazyload\" src=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2025\/05\/classy-girl-80x82.jpg\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2025\/05\/classy-girl-80x82.jpg 80w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2025\/05\/classy-girl-160x164.jpg 160w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2025\/05\/classy-girl-320x328.jpg 320w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2025\/05\/classy-girl-418x428.jpg 418w\" data-sizes=\"auto\"><i class=\"fas fa-search-plus magnifying-glass-icon\"><\/i><\/a><\/figure><p>Speaking to <em>MBW<\/em> before the case was settled, Turbo dismissed it as \u201cpretty annoying\u201d and \u201cone of those situations you have to go through\u201d, and the tag features on Turbo\u2019s own new song, <em>Classy Girl<\/em> (feat. Gunna), as he launches an artist career to sit alongside his production work and his company, The Playmakers, a record label and production company collective.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019m ready to push the limit, take the music, the transitions, the frequencies and the feeling to another level,\u201d he says of his forthcoming artist project. \u201cThat\u2019s where the whole idea of the Turbo album came from. There are no walls when you\u2019re a producer.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That work ethic means he even works on vacation \u2013 he famously recorded part of Gunna\u2019s smash hit album <em>One Of Wun<\/em> on a yacht, while he finished Big Sean\u2019s <em>Better Me Than You<\/em> record on his birthday (\u201cDid he get me a big present? He did \u2013 the album!\u201d). He\u2019s even moved effortlessly into country music, producing the smash hit <em>Whiskey Whiskey<\/em> by Moneybagg Yo featuring Morgan Wallen (\u201cCountry is just like hip-hop when I walk in the studio, it\u2019s second nature\u201d).<\/p>\n<p>And that dedication to his craft means he\u2019s determined to turn his current hot streak into an endless long hot summer of success.<\/p>\n<p>But first, it\u2019s time for him to sit down with <em>MBW<\/em> and talk streaming algorithms, AI and why he doesn\u2019t pay attention to the music industry\u2026<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6>WHAT DOES THE HOT STREAK YOU\u2019VE BEEN ON MEAN FOR YOUR CAREER?<\/h6>\n<p>Well, of course my phone\u2019s blowing up. But, when my music comes out, people have the opportunity to realize that real music is still alive. Once it gets ungimmicky and somebody sees this came out or this is doing well, my phone always rings a little bit more, but it\u2019s just my friends that have been in that process so long they kind of forgot about little old Turbo!<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6>WHY DOES YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH GUNNA WORK SO WELL?<\/h6>\n<p>We started together. In the beginning, he always looked at me as a producer, so I appreciated that, because I always wanted to be a producer, but, at that time, everybody was treating me as an engineer.<\/p>\n<p>Gunna was the first one to start calling me and asking me for beats. In the beginning, I\u2019d seen he was kind of lacking with his engineer, he wasn\u2019t working at the pace I was working and Gunna used to be terrible with his hard drive. He used to walk around with it in two pieces.<\/p>\n<p>When I saw that, I vividly remember having a conversation with him like, \u2018This hard drive is the most important thing ever\u2019. He\u2019d pull the hard drive out of two different pockets and I\u2019m like, \u2018Bro, this isn\u2019t how this is supposed to go\u2019.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;It was [down to] our work ethic; we\u2019re the ones that are going to stay at the studio the longest and work on the song until it\u2019s all the way complete and sounds the best.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>From that point on, I told him I was going to be his engineer and record him, and he took that as an opportunity to rap on all my beats, because he didn\u2019t really have to go to anybody else. I was sitting right there and I always made sure I had at least 20 beats a day to play for him.<\/p>\n<p>It was [down to] our work ethic; we\u2019re the ones that are going to stay at the studio the longest and work on the song until it\u2019s all the way complete and sounds the best. We\u2019ve been doing that pretty much every day and we just got glued to each other. The working relationship turned into a brotherhood and the brotherhood is everything at this point.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6>DID YOU ALWAYS THINK HE\u2019D BE A MASSIVE STAR?<\/h6>\n<p>I\u2019m not going to lie and act like I knew that he was going to be as big as he is now. I just knew that he could dress and he could rap and he was going to stay in the studio as long as I could, so that was enough for me.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<div class=\"mb-embed-container\"><iframe src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/_YzD9KW82sk\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<h6>IS THE PROCESS DIFFERENT WHEN YOU WORK WITH SOMEBODY YOU DON\u2019T KNOW SO WELL?<\/h6>\n<p>If it\u2019s somebody I don\u2019t know well, I like those sessions where we just sit around and talk and get to know each other. Because I\u2019m really into having a personal connection with somebody \u2013 with Gunna, Thug or Baby, that\u2019s how I came into the game. Even with T.I., I had a connection, so I get anxious if I don\u2019t have an opportunity to figure out who this person is that I\u2019m working with.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s always my process; first session we\u2019re going to basically talk and get to know each other, if we don\u2019t already, and then from that point, I\u2019m focused on pushing the limit.<\/p>\n<p>Figuring out whatever the artist\u2019s mood is, what sounds and frequencies he likes, and then going like a mad scientist, mixing everything up and seeing where I land.<\/p>\n<p>A couple of years ago I started to feel like I knew exactly what was going to happen when I was going [to the studio] with various artists. But now I don\u2019t know what\u2019s going to happen and it\u2019s super-exciting, especially when it turns out to be something good. Like with <em>It Is What It Is<\/em>, the song that came out with Big Sean \u2013 to see people love it is like, \u2018OK, cool, we can be experimental and it\u2019ll still work\u2019.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6>HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE MUSIC INDUSTRY?<\/h6>\n<p>That shit\u2019s not real. At the end of the day, the music controls everything, so I\u2019m engulfed in making sure we have the best music. The industry and the tactics \u2013 I don\u2019t pay attention to that shit!<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6>DOES THE MUSIC INDUSTRY VALUE PRODUCERS AS MUCH AS IT SHOULD?<\/h6>\n<p>I don\u2019t think it\u2019s a value thing as far as the industry is concerned; everything is moving so fast and is so microwaved, it\u2019s like an understanding thing.<\/p>\n<p>Some people might not know what placements my producer Kenny [Stuntin] has, even though he produced on One Of Wun. But if I have a big voice, then I can shine the light on that and now people in the industry have a different outlook.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;that\u2019s my entire purpose, creating a community with The Playmakers and letting people shine in their own light.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I don\u2019t want to just go to \u2018undervalued\u2019 because producers are extremely valuable and engineers are extremely valuable, without these people there is no music \u2013 you can\u2019t sing or rap on air. It\u2019s just bridging the two gaps and that\u2019s my entire purpose, creating a community with The Playmakers and letting people shine in their own light.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6>DO PRODUCERS GET A BIG ENOUGH CUT OF STREAMING REVENUES?<\/h6>\n<p>In my opinion, no. I don\u2019t think anybody really knows how the streaming percentages work.<\/p>\n<p>But, as long as I\u2019m able to provide for my family and myself, I figure Jay-Z or somebody will figure that shit out at some point.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6>HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE CURENT STATE OF HIP-HOP?<\/h6>\n<p>It\u2019s definitely different from when I first came in in 2017\/2018. But it\u2019s a root cause more than an industry cause \u2013 in the beginning, there was way less entitlement and there was way more collaboration.<\/p>\n<p>In Atlanta, everybody used to collaborate. It wasn\u2019t like I had to call your manager; everybody was friends and it wasn\u2019t for gain. And it\u2019s not like that no more.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I would love to get back to the process where everybody collaborates, where there\u2019s no, \u2018I\u2019m going to get this feature for this thing\u2019&#8221;.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As far as the state of hip-hop goes, everything\u2019s become analytical as opposed to, \u2018Let\u2019s just be creative and see where we go\u2019. I would love to get back to the process where everybody collaborates, where there\u2019s no, \u2018I\u2019m going to get this feature for this thing\u2019, just like, \u2018Hey, we should get in the studio together, we could come up with something and see what happens\u2019.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6>ARE STREAMING ALGORITHMS TO BLAME FOR THAT NEW APPROACH?<\/h6>\n<p>I might piss some people off, but I blame it on the A&amp;Rs. They pressure artists, especially new artists, into TikTok or going viral, as opposed to the roots of being creative, speaking your truth and pushing the limit.<\/p>\n<p>These past years, it became very analytical, even to the point where I\u2019ve seen some of the A&amp;Rs in the studio and I\u2019m playing a beat that might have a sample in it, just to be creative. I don\u2019t really care what happens with it but, before their artist has the opportunity to even think of a word or a bar, it\u2019s like \u2018We might not be able to clear that sample\u2019. And I\u2019m like, \u2018Hey, who cares? We\u2019re just working, being creative, maybe this song will turn into another song, who knows?\u2019<\/p>\n<p>You have to give people the opportunity to be creative and, coming in as a new artist, if you don\u2019t understand that process, you can get tricked.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6>ARE YOU APPROACHING YOUR SOLO PROJECT WITH A DIFFERENT MENTALITY TO YOUR PRODUCTION WORK?<\/h6>\n<p>I wouldn\u2019t say a different attitude, but I definitely have something to prove. I\u2019m not cutting any corners with the production or mixing process, but the mentality is always the same: let\u2019s make the best music, let\u2019s push the limit, then flip it two times and see if there\u2019s a better version.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<figure class=\"mbw-articlepic mbw-articlepic--center\"><a class=\"link-internal\" href=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2025\/05\/turbo-2.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2025\/05\/turbo-2.jpg\" data-lightbox=\"image-set\" data-title=\"\"><img  class=\"lazyload\" src=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2025\/05\/turbo-2-80x120.jpg\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2025\/05\/turbo-2-80x120.jpg 80w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2025\/05\/turbo-2-160x240.jpg 160w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2025\/05\/turbo-2-320x480.jpg 320w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2025\/05\/turbo-2-418x627.jpg 418w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2025\/05\/turbo-2-648x972.jpg 648w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2025\/05\/turbo-2-836x1254.jpg 836w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2025\/05\/turbo-2-1296x1944.jpg 1296w\" data-sizes=\"auto\"><i class=\"fas fa-search-plus magnifying-glass-icon\"><\/i><\/a><\/figure>\n<hr \/>\n<p>What I\u2019m learning about doing a producer album is, there\u2019s a lot of label politics that I wasn\u2019t aware of before, just moving around as a producer and working on all these other guys\u2019 projects.<\/p>\n<p>A lot of my producer friends will be on it but I\u2019m not just going out and grabbing the names, or whatever you call it. It\u2019s a lot of my friends and we\u2019re just sitting back, making music.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6>DOES AI POSE A THREAT TO PRODUCERS?<\/h6>\n<p>For me, AI is amazing but, as a real musician and a real producer, I can see the flaws in it. A lot of the stuff that AI comes with is predictable.<\/p>\n<p>When you\u2019re a musician playing stuff, there are certain nuances that come from just playing it. It\u2019s like putting ketchup on a French fry. A French fry is good as a French fry but, if you put ketchup on it or honey mustard, it\u2019s just that much better! AI is a French fry right now, they haven\u2019t found a way to put the ketchup on it, so it\u2019s not really threatening to me.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6>IF YOU COULD CHANGE ONE THING ABOUT THE MUSIC INDUSTRY, RIGHT HERE AND NOW, WHAT WOULD IT BE?<\/h6>\n<p>I would take the entitlement and the egos out of the entire process. Not just in hip-hop, but music as a whole.<\/p>\n<p>We still listen to Michael Jackson, Al Green and Earth, Wind &amp; Fire, all these great songs from back in the day. And, in any of the footage that I found, it seems like they\u2019re just sitting in the studio having fun. While there might have been a little bit of pressure to deliver the record, the process of creating the record didn\u2019t seem as heavy as it is these days.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;take the entitlement out and maybe the music might be better, maybe the hip-hop genre might go back up to what it was.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I\u2019d tell everybody, just collaborate. If you\u2019ve got an opportunity or resources, if you\u2019re blessed enough to get signed to a label or work with a distributor or a great A&amp;R or producer, just work with them \u2013 take the entitlement out and maybe the music might be better, maybe the hip-hop genre might go back up to what it was.<\/p>\n<p>The key is, the new guys coming up are going to think that this is normal, this is the way that they should act. We\u2019re getting to a place where kids don\u2019t have the opportunity to feel what the music felt like back then. I don\u2019t want it to become a normal thing.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6>WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE THE NEXT BIG HIP-HOP MOGUL?<\/h6>\n<p>I wouldn\u2019t even just put it under the hip-hop umbrella, I\u2019m going to become a mogul. I\u2019m working towards becoming an executive producer as big as David Geffen.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s my goal, so right now I\u2019m in the process; hip-hop is my thing, it\u2019s in my blood and in my roots, so that\u2019s what a lot of people know me for. That\u2019s why I\u2019m so ready to get this album out and let people see and understand the range of Turbo, it\u2019s not just hip-hop.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><span style=\"color: #FF7D00;\"><em><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/kollectivenr.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Kollective Neighbouring Rights<\/a> <figure class=\"mbw-articlepic mbw-articlepic--right\"><a class=\"link-internal\" href=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/12\/KNR-320x202-1.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/12\/KNR-320x202-1.jpg\" data-lightbox=\"image-set\" data-title=\"\"><img  class=\"lazyload\" src=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/12\/KNR-320x202-1-80x51.jpg\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/12\/KNR-320x202-1-80x51.jpg 80w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/12\/KNR-320x202-1-160x101.jpg 160w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/12\/KNR-320x202-1.jpg 320w\" data-sizes=\"auto\"><i class=\"fas fa-search-plus magnifying-glass-icon\"><\/i><\/a><\/figure>is one of the largest and most efficient neighbouring rights agents in the world. 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