{"id":197296,"date":"2024-03-26T11:37:25","date_gmt":"2024-03-26T11:37:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/?p=197296"},"modified":"2024-03-26T11:42:03","modified_gmt":"2024-03-26T11:42:03","slug":"no-one-understands-the-pressure-of-being-labelled-as-a-hit-songwriter-then-somebody-puts-you-in-a-room-with-strangers-and-theyre-like-hey-i-need-a-smash","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/no-one-understands-the-pressure-of-being-labelled-as-a-hit-songwriter-then-somebody-puts-you-in-a-room-with-strangers-and-theyre-like-hey-i-need-a-smash\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8216;No one understands the pressure of being labelled as a \u2018hit songwriter&#8217;, then somebody puts you in a room with strangers and they\u2019re like, \u2018Hey, I need a smash!\u2019&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>MBW\u2019s World\u2019s Greatest Songwriters series celebrates the composers behind the globe\u2019s biggest hits. Here we meet Grammy-winning writer Theron Thomas who describes his journey from the Virgin Islands to the top of the charts and what he&#8217;s learned along the way. World\u2019s Greatest Songwriters is supported by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amra.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">AMRA<\/a> \u2013 the global digital music collection society which strives to maximize value for songwriters and publishers in the digital age.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<figure class=\"mbw-articlepic mbw-articlepic--right\"><a class=\"link-internal\" href=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2021\/08\/WGS_Amra_300x250-1.gif\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2021\/08\/WGS_Amra_300x250-1.gif\" data-lightbox=\"image-set\" data-title=\"\"><img  class=\"lazyload\" src=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2021\/08\/WGS_Amra_300x250-1.gif\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2021\/08\/WGS_Amra_300x250-1.gif\" ><i class=\"fas fa-search-plus magnifying-glass-icon\"><\/i><\/a><\/figure><p>Young Theron and Timothy Thomas are rehearsing in their third-floor apartment in the Oswald Harris Court housing project in St Thomas on the US Virgin Islands.<\/p>\n<p>Downstairs, their friends are playing kickball in the Caribbean sun and calling them to come and join in. But the brothers know they can\u2019t do that until their performance has impressed their father, Miguel \u2018Kiebo\u2019 Thomas, enough for him to get out of his chair.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMy Dad taught me and my brother everything,\u201d smiles Theron Thomas, as he thinks back to those days. \u201cHe used to make us rehearse for two hours every day before we could go outside to play. We had to make him stand up. He\u2019d be like, \u2018I\u2019m your Dad, if you\u2019re boring to me, imagine how a stranger feels\u2019. He was my true hero.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Theron\u2019s father sadly didn\u2019t live to see it, having passed away suddenly in 2020, but his son recently brought a much bigger room to its feet.<\/p>\n<p>And when Theron Thomas picked up the second-ever Songwriter Of The Year, Non-Classical Grammy in Los Angeles in February, delivering an emotional tribute to his Dad \u2013 who had predicted his son would one day win a Grammy \u2013 as he did so, it was the culmination of a long, hard journey that began thousands of miles and a whole different world away.<\/p>\n      <div class=\"mb-advert__incontent\">      <div class=\"mb-advert mb-advert__tweeny hidden-xs hidden-ms hidden-sm\" data-loaded=\"no\" data-sizes=\"992 1200 1440\" data-name=\"628x90 Sponsor banner (992+1200+1440)\" data-params=\"dfp_sponsor_628\" id=\"dfp_sponsor_628\"><\/div>      <div class=\"mb-advert mb-advert__banner mb-advert__banner--inline hidden-xs hidden-sm hidden-md hidden-lg\" data-loaded=\"no\" data-sizes=\"480\" data-name=\"468x60 Sponsor banner (480)\" data-params=\"dfp_sponsor_468\" id=\"dfp_sponsor_468\"><\/div>      <div class=\"mb-advert mb-advert__mobile mb-advert__mobile--inline hidden-ms hidden-md hidden-lg\" data-loaded=\"no\" data-sizes=\"320 768\" data-name=\"300x50 Sponsor banner (320+768)\" data-params=\"dfp_sponsor_300\" id=\"dfp_sponsor_300\"><\/div>      <\/div>      \n<p>Indeed, when Theron was a kid, he would ask his father whether the people in the far-off, glamorous locations he saw on TV \u2013 London, New York, Paris, LA \u2013 knew anything about St Thomas and its people.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI didn\u2019t want to just live in the world and die and have no one know I was here,\u201d he says. \u201cI wanted people to know my island is here and to know that I exist.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That Theron is close to mission accomplished on that ambitious plan is testament not just to his talent, but also his tenacity. He and his brother \u2013 who would first find success in the band R. City (aka Rock City, the local nickname for their hometown) \u2013 became well known for their music in St Thomas, but nobody expected that notoriety to extend beyond the Virgin Islands.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cApart from my parents, there was never anybody that believed this could happen,\u201d Theron says. \u201cThey\u2019d say, \u2018Nobody\u2019s ever done it, so why would it be you and your brother? What makes y\u2019all so special? This isn\u2019t a thing that people from where we\u2019re from accomplish\u2019.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Desperate to prove them wrong, the brothers moved to Miami in 2000 with $35 in their collective pocket, sleeping on floors and making connections, until a musical opportunity took them to Atlanta a year later.<\/p>\n<p>At the time, artist stardom was their priority. R. City signed first to Akon\u2019s KonLive Distribution (Akon gave them their first writing credit when he used their song\u00a0The Rain\u00a0on his\u00a0<em>Konvicted<\/em>\u00a0album) and, later, Dr Luke\u2019s Kemosabe Records.<\/p>\n<p>R. City had a Top 10 Billboard hit with<em>\u00a0Locked Away\u00a0<\/em>(featuring Maroon 5\u2019s Adam Levine) in 2015. But it was the songs they wrote and produced for other people along the way that really had an impact: Sean Kingston\u2019s\u00a0<em>Take You There<\/em>, Iyaz\u2019s\u00a0<em>Replay<\/em>\u00a0and, crucially, Pussycat Dolls\u2019\u00a0<em>When I Grow Up<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat gave us a lot of confidence,\u201d Theron grins. \u201cThe Pussycat Dolls won an MTV Award and I\u2019ll never forget Nicole saying, \u2018Thank you to R. City\u2019. \u2018Nicole Scherzinger said our name on MTV \u2013 oh my God, we\u2019re going to be famous!\u2019 That purity is something that kept us going for a long, long time.\u201d<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<div class=\"mb-embed-container\"><iframe src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/QU9c0053UAU\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<p>After that, work with the likes of Rihanna (<em>Man Down<\/em>), Justin Bieber (<em>Runaway Love<\/em>) and Miley Cyrus (<em>We Can\u2019t Stop<\/em>) followed.<\/p>\n<p>The brothers still make music together in R. City \u2013 they\u2019re suitably huge in the Caribbean \u2013 while Theron is currently on an epic co-writing run of his own that has created smash hit singles for Latto (<em>Big Energy<\/em>), Justin Timberlake (<em>Selfish<\/em>), Ciara and Chris Brown (<em>How We Roll<\/em>), Jungkook feat. Latto (<em>Seven<\/em>) and many more.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, his ongoing collaboration with Lizzo has produced the likes of\u00a0<em>Juice<\/em>\u00a0and\u00a0<em>About Damn Time<\/em>.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Published by Sony Music and managed by Ray Daniels, Thomas admits he often has no idea that he\u2019s written a solid gold banger (\u201cI liked\u00a0<em>Seven<\/em>, but I didn\u2019t know it was going to be the fastest song to one billion streams ever [on Spotify]. That was a surprise!\u201d).<\/p>\n<p>Similarly, he was taken aback by his Songwriter Of The Year Grammy nomination, having been told that he would need to campaign to have a chance (\u201cI overslept, when my publicist woke me up to say I was nominated, I was completely discombobulated\u201d).<\/p>\n<p>Once he\u2019d got the nomination, however, he was determined to win. And when he did? \u201cI lost my mind!\u201d he chuckles. \u201cWhen you\u2019re a kid and you say, \u2018When I grow up, I\u2019m going to do this thing\u2019 and then you grow up and you do the thing, you\u2019re like, \u2018What the?\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Despite all the post-Grammys attention, and the pressure that comes with being the music industry\u2019s go-to hitmaker, Thomas has retained his Caribbean chill, just like he\u2019s kept his accent. He may have turned down a couple of session offers straight after the ceremony so that he could return to Atlanta to show his kids his award, but he is more than happy to give the industry what it\u2019s looking for.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe fast-food chain Chick-fil-A is known for having great service \u2013 and I always tell people I\u2019m the Chick-fil-A of the music business,\u201d he grins, as he settles down at home in Atlanta to talk to <em>MBW<\/em>. \u201cI know that when I come into a room, it\u2019s not about me. I\u2019m here to serve.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Time then, for Thomas to dish up some answers to questions about TikTok, Lizzo and why songwriters are the Rolls-Royce engines of the music industry\u2026<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6>WHY DID YOU SWITCH YOUR ATTENTION FROM BEING AN ARTIST TO BEING A SONGWRITER?<\/h6>\n<p>When I was a kid I was like, \u2018I\u2019m going to be as famous as Michael Jackson\u2019. Then, when you get into the music business, you understand the business and the price of real fame. After a while, it was a bit scary to me \u2013 fame, not success.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I stumbled upon songwriting and I was like, \u2018Wait a minute. I\u2019m making great money, my family is living awesome, and I can walk in the mall and nobody knows me? Why didn\u2019t I think of this sooner?'&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I didn\u2019t know \u2018songwriter\u2019 was a job. I thought everybody wrote their own songs. I\u2019m a kid from St Thomas, I was na\u00efve and ignorant to a bunch of things. I would pray and be like, \u2018Yo God, I want to be in the music business, I want to be famous, please, please, please. But God, if you can make it so that when I wake up every day I make music for a living, in any capacity, you wouldn\u2019t have no complaints out of me\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>I stumbled upon songwriting and I was like, \u2018Wait a minute. I\u2019m making great money, my family is living awesome, and I can walk in the mall and nobody knows me? Why didn\u2019t I think of this sooner?\u2019<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6>SURELY IT\u2019S A PRETTY COMPETITIVE BUSINESS THOUGH?<\/h6>\n<p>I love the competitiveness of it. I never played sports, but I love the, \u2018I\u2019m writing a song and Max Martin is writing a song and Diane Warren and Amy Allen, all the great writers in the game are writing a song and sending it to the same person\u2019 thing. Then they pick your song and you\u2019re like, \u2018Yeah, I won this one!\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Or they pick their song and you\u2019re like, \u2018Oh man, I\u2019ve got to go back to the studio and do better!\u2019 Even when somebody else gets the win, it doesn\u2019t make me feel bad or offended, I\u2019m like, \u2018OK, now I\u2019ve got to do something to wow the world because they just did\u2019. I love that!<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6>WHY DOES YOUR COLLABORATION WITH LIZZO WORK SO WELL?<\/h6>\n<p>Every writer deserves a Lizzo. Every writer deserves that artist that they are truly connected with creatively, to the point where they bounce off each other so well.<\/p>\n<p>We have this thing that we call \u2018Lizzoisms\u2019. Lizzo says these things like, \u2018It\u2019s bad bitch o\u2019clock\u2019 or \u2018I just took a DNA test, turns out I\u2019m 100% that bitch\u2019 \u2013 she says these phrases that become these viral captions for women. So now, when we\u2019re in the studio, we\u2019ll be writing a song and it\u2019ll be like, \u2018It don\u2019t have the Lizzoisms\u2019. We\u2019ll be diving through the lyrics, adding and subtracting.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<div class=\"mb-embed-container\"><iframe src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/XaCrQL_8eMY\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<p>I have an idea or she has an idea and we go back and forth until she\u2019s happy with the end product and I\u2019m also happy with it \u2013 but the end product is more about her than me.<\/p>\n<p>For every creator, from producer to writer to engineer to mixer, having a Lizzo is a dream, because you get to create with somebody at the top of their game, and their talent and your songs get to really have a shot to see the world.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6>IS IT DIFFERENT WHEN THE SESSION IS WITH SOMEONE YOU DON\u2019T KNOW SO WELL AND IT\u2019S ALL ABOUT WRITING A HIT?<\/h6>\n<p>Well, you know, songwriting is weird. None of these things exist before you think of them from nowhere. So, no one understands the pressure of being labelled as a \u2018hit songwriter\u2019 and somebody puts you in a room with strangers and they\u2019re like, \u2018Hey, I need a smash!\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Some people have a direction and that is amazing. We can walk down that direction until we figure it out. But some people are like, \u2018I need a hit\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018OK, uptempo? A ballad?\u2019<\/p>\n<p>\u2018I don\u2019t know\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018Sad, happy?\u2019<\/p>\n<p>\u2018I don\u2019t know\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>And you\u2019re like, \u2018OK\u2026 we\u2019ll try our best!\u2019<\/p>\n<p>But I like the intensity of my sport. This is my basketball court and I love getting in the room with an artist and having a 50% chance that I\u2019m going to win and a 50% chance that I\u2019m going to fail. You can\u2019t get fairer odds than that. There\u2019s a 50% chance you\u2019re going to write\u00a0<em>About Damn Time<\/em>\u00a0and there\u2019s a 50% chance that you are going to fuck this up!<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6>DO YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT APPROACH WITH NEW ARTISTS AS OPPOSED TO ESTABLISHED SUPERSTARS?<\/h6>\n<p>No, I give everybody the same respect. At one point, Beyonc\u00e9 was the young girl in Destiny\u2019s Child, who would have known that she would become Beyonc\u00e9? So, who am I to treat the new young girl like she\u2019s not going to be Beyonc\u00e9 one day or the new young man like he\u2019s not going to be Drake one day? How dare I treat anybody like they\u2019re not special because, in my mind, we all are special.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I\u2019m like an Uber driver; I\u2019m always trying to figure out what you need to get you to where you\u2019re trying to go.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I\u2019m like an Uber driver; I\u2019m always trying to figure out what you need to get you to where you\u2019re trying to go. You\u2019ve got an address \u2013 the charts. So, with me as the Uber driver, how do I get you there the fastest and the safest? That\u2019s literally what I\u2019m trying to do: get artists to the charts in the fastest and best way I possibly can. It doesn\u2019t work out that way every time, but that is the goal every time.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6>DOES THE INDUSTRY VALUE SONGWRITING AS MUCH AS IT SHOULD?<\/h6>\n<p>No. Songwriters are the side chicks of the music business \u2013 like, \u2018I love this girl, but I can\u2019t tell anybody she exists because I\u2019m married\u2019. We don\u2019t want to be side girls; we want to be the main attraction. As a songwriter, we just want the same respect as everybody else.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s like saying, \u2018Who cares about the engine on the car?\u2019 The Rolls-Royce is a pretty car, the interior is important\u2026 I know you don\u2019t see the engine, but you\u2019ve got to know, without the engine, the car is not going anywhere.<\/p>\n<p>And without the song, you don\u2019t go anywhere. Mariah Carey doesn\u2019t walk out in a gown and everybody screams like, \u2018Mariah\u2019s so stunning and beautiful, I spent $1,200 on a ticket to see her, she smiled and twirled and she went home\u2019. Nah, bruh. You better start singing. I want to hear them lyrics. I want to hear them songs.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6>HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE TREND FOR HAVING MULTIPLE SONGWRITERS ON EVERY TRACK?<\/h6>\n<p>I\u2019ve written big hits by myself and that\u2019s great. But collaboration is the way of the future. With everything happening in this world \u2013 artificial intelligence is going to start writing songs, making beats, writing articles and building houses. We\u2019re going to need to form super-people!<\/p>\n<p>The Power Rangers couldn\u2019t beat the giant by themselves, everybody had to come together to defeat it. And I believe the future of every industry, including music, is going to be collaboration.<\/p>\n<p>Performing at a high level in any job is extreme pressure, but that\u2019s why collaboration is so important. If at any time I fall short, I\u2019m in a room with other incredible, like-minded songwriter-producers who can guide me into my next hit. Collaboration is the key to staying relevant as long as I have \u2013 and hopefully to being around even longer.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6><figure class=\"mbw-articlepic mbw-articlepic--right\"><a class=\"link-internal\" href=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/03\/shutterstock_1975329809.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/03\/shutterstock_1975329809.jpg\" data-lightbox=\"image-set\" data-title=\"\"><img  class=\"lazyload\" src=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/03\/shutterstock_1975329809-80x53.jpg\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/03\/shutterstock_1975329809-80x53.jpg 80w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/03\/shutterstock_1975329809-160x107.jpg 160w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/03\/shutterstock_1975329809-320x213.jpg 320w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/03\/shutterstock_1975329809-418x279.jpg 418w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/03\/shutterstock_1975329809-648x432.jpg 648w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/03\/shutterstock_1975329809-836x558.jpg 836w\" data-sizes=\"auto\"><i class=\"fas fa-search-plus magnifying-glass-icon\"><\/i><\/a><figcaption class=\"imagecredit\">Credit: 19 STUDIO\/Shutterstock<\/figcaption><\/figure>SOME OF YOUR SONGS HAVE BEEN MASSIVE TIKTOK HITS. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE UNIVERSAL-TIKTOK DISPUTE?<\/h6>\n<p>I hope both parties get to a place where it can be fair, but I don\u2019t think I\u2019m upset about it. TikTok dances are incredible and they\u2019ve broken a lot of records, but [we need] artists being discovered for artistry and respected for talent and not just [because] you saw that song on TikTok.<\/p>\n<p>This is what happens: you\u2019re a poor kid, you load your song up, it gets huge. Somebody just gives you a couple of million dollars out of the blue. Now it\u2019s time to make another song, but you don\u2019t even understand why that one was big, you were just having fun with your friends, you\u2019ve never been educated about writing songs.<\/p>\n<p>You\u2019re talented, but now the pressure\u2019s on. You\u2019re trying to do it on your own, but the label\u2019s like \u2018No, that\u2019s not it \u2013 you should go in the studio with these people\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>Now you\u2019re in a room with people that you\u2019ve never worked with, in a process you\u2019ve never been in before, feeling like, \u2018I don\u2019t want to do what this guy\u2019s telling me to do, I have my own way\u2019. Well, guess what, we need a hit by Friday. And now you\u2019re frustrated at the music business because there was no education before they gave you money and said, \u2018Go off into the world, good luck\u2019. It\u2019s dangerous.<\/p>\n<p>Artist development is a real necessity. In the K-pop world, they have acts in development for four or five years before they even start to record a song. Practising, perfecting their craft, having media training and learning how to be an artist before they even get in the studio. I respect that practise so much and I wish it was something that we adopted in America.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6>IF YOU COULD CHANGE ONE THING ABOUT TODAY&#8217;S MUSIC INDUSTRY, RIGHT HERE AND NOW, WHAT WOULD IT BE AND WHY?<\/h6>\n<p>I would make sure everybody gets paid what they deserve. Certain managers aren\u2019t being paid, certain A&amp;Rs, certain writers, producers\u2026 there are people in this business that are putting in the work, putting in the hours, doing what they\u2019re supposed to do and not being compensated in the fairest way.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m not talking about, give everybody millions of dollars, but I\u2019ve always believed in fair. It\u2019s like that Mel Gibson movie,\u00a0<em>Payback<\/em>. Mel goes after all of these criminals, doing all kinds of crazy stuff to get his $70,000. And everybody\u2019s like, \u2018Bro, what is wrong with you?\u2019 And he\u2019s like, \u2018I just want what\u2019s mine. I don\u2019t want $100,000, I don\u2019t want $1 million \u2013 I did a job, my portion of the earnings was $70,000 and that\u2019s what I want\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>And for me as a songwriter, I do a job and you can compensate me in a fair way that doesn\u2019t take you into bankruptcy and everybody will be happy. And I don\u2019t see why that it\u2019s such a big issue to be fair to the engine of the car!<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<em><strong><figure class=\"mbw-articlepic mbw-articlepic--right\"><a class=\"link-internal\" href=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2022\/05\/amra-wordmark-black.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2022\/05\/amra-wordmark-black.png\" data-lightbox=\"image-set\" data-title=\"\"><img  class=\"lazyload\" src=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2022\/05\/amra-wordmark-black-80x18.png\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2022\/05\/amra-wordmark-black-80x18.png 80w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2022\/05\/amra-wordmark-black-160x37.png 160w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2022\/05\/amra-wordmark-black-320x74.png 320w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2022\/05\/amra-wordmark-black-418x96.png 418w\" data-sizes=\"auto\"><i class=\"fas fa-search-plus magnifying-glass-icon\"><\/i><\/a><\/figure><span style=\"color: #800080;\"><a class=\"link-external\" style=\"color: #800080;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amra.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">AMRA is the first of its kind \u2014 a global digital music collection society, built on technology and trust. AMRA is designed to maximize value for songwriters and publishers in today's digital age, while providing the highest level of transparency and efficiency.<\/a><\/span><\/strong><\/em>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Grammy-winner Theron Thomas talks about the childhood that inspired him, helping break Lizzo, his billion-stream hits, AI, TikTok, The Power Rangers and Mel Gibson<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":29,"featured_media":197340,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[3058],"class_list":["post-197296","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-interviews","tag-worlds-greatest-songwriters"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/197296","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/29"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=197296"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/197296\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/197340"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=197296"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=197296"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=197296"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}